What I'm noticing is that each time it gets better. Each time it gets closer to what I ultimately want. Granted, it's only been two guys in five years. But hey, that's a TREND, and I'm focusing on the positive :-) Third time has got to be a charm.
Meanwhile, I'm about to start writing a post to answer some of GoneSavage's questions about compassionate communication (NVC) and pickup. He's worried that NVC is anti-sex. Obviously he did not attend the 10-day intensive NVC training with Marshall Rosenberg where on the first evening that the group gathered, one of the instructors gravely warned us to be careful because we would be using a lot of NVC during the week, and "NVC often leads to sex."